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I'm going to be honest, the data job market has been really rough the past year with the rise of AI layoffs, presidential political turmoil, interest rates.
Speaker AYou're only really hearing a lot of negative things about the data job market and tech job market in general.
Speaker AYou'll hear all these things on different social media platforms like Threads or Twitter, or maybe some sort of mainstream media platform like CNBC or Fox News or something like that.
Speaker ABut what's actually going on in the data job market right now?
Speaker AWell, there's a lot of opinions.
Speaker AYou'll hear different things if you're on YouTube or if you're listening via podcasts or on X or Threads or Facebook or from your friends.
Speaker AIt's really hard.
Speaker AAnd everyone kind of has a different opinion about it because what's the actual truth?
Speaker ANo one really knows.
Speaker ANo one exactly really knows how the job market is going right now.
Speaker AAnd I can tell you what I'm experiencing from being a data analyst career coach for over 600 different students.
Speaker AI could tell you about posting every day and interacting on LinkedIn, or from doing this podcast and talking to industry experts, you know, people in the field.
Speaker ABut here's the truth.
Speaker AThose would still just be kind of anecdotal opinions.
Speaker AIt's what I'm experiencing, it's what the people around me are experiencing.
Speaker ABut it wouldn't be quite comprehensive, so.
Speaker ABut more importantly, it wouldn't really be data driven.
Speaker AAnd it's always better to be data driven, especially on channels like this.
Speaker AWe're data analysts, right?
Speaker AWe want to go off of what the data says.
Speaker ALet's go ahead and dive into some data.
Speaker AI was lucky to get my hands on this data.
Speaker AThis data was collected by a company I was recently introduced to.
Speaker AIt's called Live Data Technologies and they track real time employment data, leveraging publicly available data sets.
Speaker ASo basically what the company does is monitor different platforms and sees who's leaving jobs, who's coming into jobs.
Speaker AThey're basically looking around the Internet and publicly available data sets and trying to make sense of it all.
Speaker AThe company sells the data and the insights that they pick up on this data to product builders, investors, talent teams, all sorts of different people.
Speaker AAnd luckily for us, they've agreed to make some of this data and some of these insights freely available to benefit the data community.
Speaker ASo special shout out to them, specifically Jason Saltzman.
Speaker AWhen I looked at this data, I had five main takeaways.
Speaker AI had five things.
Speaker AI was like, huh?
Speaker AI didn't necessarily expect that.
Speaker AOr I was like, oh, that's what I thought.
Speaker AAnd this data confirms it.
Speaker AAnd you want to make sure you stick around to the end because the last one, I think that one will make you feel the best and the most optimistic.
Speaker ASpoiler alert.
Speaker AAll right, so let's dive into number one.
Speaker AFor a good portion of the 2010s, data scientist was labeled the sexiest job of the 21st century.
Speaker AAnd as a data scientist myself, I like to think that I'm pretty sexy.
Speaker ASo I kind of agreed.
Speaker ANo, I'm just kidding.
Speaker AThe businesses really saw as a really sexy role and very valued for their business.
Speaker AYou got paid a lot, you can work remotely, and that's still the case.
Speaker ABut I would say that the data scientist role has kind of broken up into different types of roles.
Speaker AI think originally it was kind of just the data scientist role, but like, now we see a lot more data engineers.
Speaker ANow, data engineers did exist back then, but it wasn't nearly as popular as it is now.
Speaker AThe other roles being created all the time, like analytics engineers, one of the more new roles, um, so one of the things I looked into is like, okay, with these different data job titles, which one of these titles has had the most growth in the last five years?
Speaker AAnd it's not really a surprise.
Speaker AIt's data engineering.
Speaker AThere's a couple reasons behind this.
Speaker AI think number one is we thought data science was sexy, and it is sexy.
Speaker ADoing things like machine learning, predicting things, using, you know, AI, those types of things obviously is very cool.
Speaker ABut the problem is data science can't get a whole lot done without a data engineer.
Speaker AThe data engineer needs to be there first to kind of set things up, get the data all clean, prepped, storage usable in the right ways.
Speaker AAnd that just wasn't really the case in the early 2010s.
Speaker AAnd so now we've seen this huge rise of data engineer, where it's actually the fastest growing data role out there.
Speaker AThat's not to say that the data scientist isn't quick growing.
Speaker AIt's actually growing quite a bit as well.
Speaker AIt's just not growing as fast as it was maybe in early 2023, but still growing quite a bit.
Speaker AThe other reason I think these data engineer jobs are being so in demand in the last year and a half specifically, is due to AI.
Speaker AAI is a really interesting problem because there's all these AI models out there, but really the model is only as good as the data you give it.
Speaker AThe better data you give it, the better the model is.
Speaker AAnd also the more data you give it, the better the model is.
Speaker AAnd data engineers have this unique skillset of being really equipped to store data in correct places and make it easily accessible to everywhere.
Speaker ASo data engineers are great fits for AI companies, AI products.
Speaker AAnd so I think that's kind of why we're seeing a data engineer boom right now, is because those skills are really in demand now for the same reason with AI being good for data engineers, is AI bad for data analysts?
Speaker AAnd I can't even tell you how many messages I get of people asking me, oh, like, is being a data analyst a good choice?
Speaker AIs it going to be overtaken by AI?
Speaker AAm I going to lose my job to AI in the next five years?
Speaker AAnd let's go ahead and take this chart that we showed earlier.
Speaker AJust focus on data analyst jobs in particular.
Speaker ATake out the other job families and take a quick look.
Speaker ASo what you'll notice here is if we look at this graph and just do the solo shot, is that data analyst jobs are still growing.
Speaker AThere's still growth over time.
Speaker ANow you might be tempted to be like, no, Avery, look at the top of that chart in the top right corner.
Speaker AIt's pretty stagnant.
Speaker AWell, that's actually stagnant growth compared to 2019.
Speaker ASo the role is still growing at like 14% year over year when you compare it to 2019.
Speaker ASo it's still growing quite a bit every single year.
Speaker ALeads me to believe that data on this role is still a great role.
Speaker AIt's not being replaced by AI.
Speaker AI don't really think it'll ever be replaced by AI.
Speaker ABut it's certainly not happening now and I don't really see it happening down the road.
Speaker AI see AI more as a tool that helps analysts analyze fafsa.
Speaker AIt's almost like when Microsoft Excel did, you know, the data analysts then lose their job because all of a sudden we could do these calculations in a computer.
Speaker ANo, it just helped them do their job faster.
Speaker ASo I see AI as a tool that helps analysts get their jobs done quicker versus something that's going to ultimately replace them.
Speaker AIt's a tool essentially like a hammer.
Speaker AI think data analysts are still very valuable for companies.
Speaker AThey're providing them great insight at a little bit more of affordable rate.
Speaker AAnd it really helps these companies get like low hanging fruit of all things in their data.
Speaker ABecause to be honest, AI is sexy, machine learning sexy, but a lot of companies aren't there.
Speaker AA lot of companies just need to be more data driven.
Speaker AI think a data analyst is a great first step.
Speaker ATrust me, there's so many Companies out there, like, like obviously there's Google, there's Tesla, there's Facebook, where they're doing cutting edge machine learning stuff all the time.
Speaker ABut for every one of those companies, honestly, there's probably thousands of other companies who just need to make a report or just had some data pulled in SQL like it's.
Speaker AThere's a lot of opportunities for data analysts out there.
Speaker AAnd that was my second takeaway.
Speaker AMy third takeaway is that job hopping is in.
Speaker AIf you look at this chart right here, it'll show you the average tenure of the different data job titles.
Speaker AAnd that basically just shows you how long they're staying in a specific role.
Speaker AYou might notice that database roles, they're staying there quite a bit earlier.
Speaker AThe rest of these job families look like they're pretty similar in terms of how long they're staying there.
Speaker AAnd it ranges anywhere from two and a half to one and a half years.
Speaker AAnd what I get from this is that is the average that someone is spending at a company before switching to a different company.
Speaker AI think that's a good thing.
Speaker AI think that should give you confidence to do it.
Speaker AI think in the past it was frowned upon to leave a company early, but now I think it's not nearly frowned upon as much.
Speaker AI think more people are doing it and I think it's good because I talked about this in my episode with Zach Wilson where he discussed how he went from like $30,000 to like $500,000 in like seven years or something like that.
Speaker AAnd one of the reasons he was able to do it was he switched jobs every 18 months.
Speaker AAnd for some strange company, we live in an economy where you're actually probably worth more to another company than your own.
Speaker AThey're willing to pay you more than your current company is, which is weird and messed up and we could go into that.
Speaker ABut the point here is that it looks like everyone's job hopping.
Speaker AAnd so you might consider as well point number four, and that is that data hiring is happening literally in so many different industries and so many different companies.
Speaker AI'll pop up on the screen a couple graphs here.
Speaker AWe'll look at the first one, which is where companies are hiring Data analysts in 2024.
Speaker AAnd what you'll notice here is there's so many cool companies like Capital One, Accenture, Deloitte, Data Annotation, Google.
Speaker AWhat I want you to point out here is like, obviously Google's here, obviously Tesla's on this list, Apple's on this list.
Speaker ABut there's a lot of like more traditional companies that aren't like big tech companies that aren't fang companies.
Speaker AAnd a lot of the times I think that we associate the data analyst role with tech and because it is kind of a tech role.
Speaker ABut data analysts work at manufacturing companies, they work at finance companies, they work at healthcare companies.
Speaker AThey don't only work at tech company companies.
Speaker AThe tech companies are kind of the sexy ones and they often have a high salary.
Speaker ABut there's so many different roles at so many different companies and sometimes I think we forget that that like it's not just Facebook, it's not just Netflix that are hiring data people, it's manufacturing companies, it's consulting companies like Deloitte, it's healthcare companies like Optum.
Speaker AThere's more opportunities for data analytics outside of tech than there is inside of tech.
Speaker AAnd I think it's just a good reminder.
Speaker AAnd then these graphs here that show what companies are hiring the most, data engineers and data scientists.
Speaker AI will point out that data scientist companies are a little bit more of those tech companies met Microsoft, TikTok, Google.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AThose are a little bit more of what you typically feel in terms of tech companies.
Speaker AThat being said, there's still consulting companies on this list, there's still banks on this list, there's still finance companies on this list, manufacturing companies.
Speaker ASo don't just think that it's only tech companies that are hiring data roles.
Speaker AAlso, quick note.
Speaker AIt's interesting to see that Meta is leading and hiring both for the data scientist and the data engineer position just because they did pretty big layoffs like two years ago, year and a half ago or something like that.
Speaker AI think part of this was they just over hired during COVID for different parts of their company and now they're kind of transitioning into an AI company.
Speaker AWe'll see how that goes.
Speaker ABut I imagine they're hiring a lot of resources to do that.
Speaker AAnd that's probably why you see such a big surge in data scientists and data engineers.
Speaker ABut also Meta probably just hires quite a bit as well.
Speaker AOkay, takeaway number five.
Speaker AAnd this one is my favorite and that is that data jobs are quite resilient.
Speaker AThis chart right here basically compares data scientist, data engineer and data analyst levels to the average white collar job levels.
Speaker ASpecifically what we're looking at is the percent of people who are hired after leaving a role.
Speaker ASo basically the higher the percentage the better.
Speaker AAnd what you can see that all three of the data job families are higher than the average white collar worker, which basically means that these jobs are in demand.
Speaker AThat means if someone in the data family is laid off, they're more likely to glad a job quickly than your average white collar worker.
Speaker ANow that also could be true for if they're switching jobs as well, which just allows more career flexibility.
Speaker ALike we talked about earlier, job hopping usually means you're making more money that way.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker ASo to me this is a great sign that basically data jobs are quite resilient, they're quite flexible, and that no job is layoff proof, of course.
Speaker ABut it does look like these data job families are still very high in demand and will allow you to quickly land a job if you're laid off or if you need to switch jobs for whatever reason.
Speaker AWith that, I hope you realize that the state of data jobs is maybe not as bleak as you thought.
Speaker AIt may be things might seem grim, but honestly these numbers look pretty healthy and I think we're in a good situation.
Speaker AAnd I think that situation will continue into the next year as well.
Speaker AThanks again to Live Data Technologies for sharing this data with us.
Speaker AI'll have a link to them down below in the show notes.
Speaker AYou guys can check them out.
Speaker AAnd as always, if you're looking for another episode to watch, I really suggest this one right here or in the show notes you can find that linked as well.